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TB871: Power dynamics in systems thinking

Note: this is a post reflecting on one of the modules of my MSc in Systems Thinking in Practice. You can see all of the related posts in this category


Graffiti showing the character 'Skeletor' from the cartoon 'He-Man' with the words "You have power too..."

The components of power within group dynamics, initially outlined by French and Raven (1959), can be closely related to the dynamics within systems thinking in practice (STiP) (‘French and Raven’s bases of power’, 2024). Here is a breakdown of each power type and its relevance within the context of STiP:

  1. Positional Power (Legitimate Power): stems from a person’s role or position within an organisational hierarchy. In systems thinking, understanding the hierarchical structures within a system is crucial as it affects decision-making processes and influence. An example of this would be a CEO or someone else in the C-Suite of an organisation who has the power to make wide-ranging decisions and allocate resources at scale. It can also happen at a smaller scale.
  2. Reward Power: derived from the ability to provide valuable resources or benefits, such as funds, perks, or information. In systems thinking, reward power can influence stakeholders’ engagement and cooperation. An example of this would be a funder or someone who has important (e.g. political) information which could be important to the success or failure of a project.
  3. Coercive Power: involves the threat of punishment or withdrawal of resources to enforce compliance. Systems thinking often seeks to minimise coercive power as it can create resistance and conflict within the system. An example of this would be an events organiser who refuses to platform people who don’t agree with his ideology, or a manager who threatens to cut budgets for departments who do not comply with her new strategy.
  4. Personal Power (Referent Power): based on personal characteristics such as charisma, trustworthiness, and interpersonal skills. In systems thinking, personal power can facilitate collaboration and foster a positive environment for change. An example of this might be a team leader who is well-liked and respected, and so can inspire and motivate others to achieve great things.
  5. Expert Power: comes from possessing specialised knowledge or expertise that others value. Systems thinking relies heavily on expert power for analysing complex problems and developing effective interventions. An example might be a systems analyst whose deep understanding of causal loop diagrams and feedback mechanisms, or someone who has a lot of experience with the technical standards upon which a system is built.
  6. Informational Power: derived from having access to and control over important information. This type of power is significant in systems thinking as information flow and transparency are key to understanding and solving systemic problems. An example might be a network coordinator who has insider knowledge about the dynamics and histories of various groups (subsystems) and their interconnections.
  7. Mental and Physical Power: pertains to an individual’s stamina, resilience, and ability to persevere through challenges. In systems thinking, this can be important for sustaining long-term interventions and managing complex change processes. An example of this might be someone who campaigns for change despite initial resistance and setbacks.

Activity P4.19 asks to reflect on where our power lies and how we use this power (The Open University, 2020). So let’s go through them.

I do not believe in positional power unless the person in the role has earned their position. This is why I’m a republican as opposed to a monarchist, and why I am never ‘deferential’ and why I believe respect should be earned. It has, I admit, got me into some trouble in my career. To be fair, I have stuck to my principles and when I have been in positions of power, I have been at pains to use other types of power.

I have only occasionally been in a position to demonstrate reward power, but this has made me feel uncomfortable. The only times I think I have used coercive power is in parenting. Although I wouldn’t say I’m high on the charisma front these days, I do have enough interpersonal skills to get things done, and for people to want to keep me happy. This is often tied to expert power as when I’m asking other people for things, it’s usually because I can’t get them done myself, for whatever reason.

Finally, informational power is not something I wield directly, as I share everything as openly as possible. Although I am a source of information, I try to (as I am doing here) share information in a way that others can access without coming through me as a bottleneck. Finally, reflecting on mental and physical power makes me a little sad, as although I see myself as a reasonably resilient person, my migraines have really hampered my career. I’m physically fit and determined, but as I explained in my last weeknote, although I’m fine in a crisis, my body seems to get stressed easily, with that stress causing debilitating migraines.

I would say that my power base, such as it is, comes from expertise, information, and mental power factors. My lack of power in other areas is intentional.

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TB872: A web of existence of which we are only partly aware

Note: this is a post reflecting on one of the modules of my MSc in Systems Thinking in Practice. You can see all of the related posts in this category.


I’m not entirely sure how I’m going to keep up with these studies over a birthday, Christmas, and holiday over New Year, but I shall try…

This abstract image visually interprets the themes from the blog post 'TB872: A web of existence of which we are only partly aware.' It features a complex web of interlocking structures and diverse human figures, symbolizing the interconnectedness of human experiences and the intricate nature of institutionalized systems thinking. The composition, rich in depth and varied hues, reflects the multifaceted challenges in shaping perceptions through language and the struggle to institutionalize systems thinking in society and organizations. The artwork conveys a sense of depth and complexity, illustrating the nuanced and layered nature of the concepts discussed in the blog post.

I’ve found it entirely refreshing to come across an older white male (Ray Ison) who, while obviously possessing a huge intellect and masses of experience, understands and acknowledges his own limitations. For example, in the prefaces to Systems Practice: How to Act he highlights four boundary conditions (p.vi-vii), a ‘major weakness’ (p.viii), and a criticism related to how much he discusses power (p.xiii).

Like most people, the non-fiction books I read usually focus on a very specific topic. They are situated within a tradition and the author doesn’t really reflect on their own biases. That’s not the case with Ison’s book:

How we think and act is patterned into the very fabric of our existence from birth. It is affected by and sustianed by our physiology, particularly our underlying emotions, by the structures of our language, by our practice of reifying explanations (particular ways of thinking) in rules, procedures, techniques and objects, by our culture and our social relations, all of them as they change over time. How technology functions in our society is an important consideration as well. The result is a hugely complex web, a web of existence, in which we are immerse and of which we are only partly aware.

Ison, R. (2017) Systems practice: how to act. London: Springer. p.5. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1007/978-1-4471-7351-9.

Chapter 1 focuses on three questions, or what Ison calls ‘inquiries’:

  1. What do we do when we do what we do?
  2. What are the consequences of living in language?
  3. Why have we failed to institutionalise systems thinking in our society in general and our organisational practices in particular?

Let’s take them each in turn, and I’ll attempt to relate them to my own context.

1. What do we do when we do what we do?

This second-order question causes the person answering it to reflect on what they’re doing. A simpler way of asking it, although perhaps lacking some nuance would be to keep asking the question why? Ison gives the example of marking student work, which leads to a reflection on the quantification of assessment, and then onto what is in the best interests of student learning.

I’m no longer a teacher, and haven’t been for a while. But there are so many examples I could use in my life, from parenting (why do I end up being a disciplinarian when I don’t really think that’s in the best interests of my kids?) to my working practices (why do we reify ‘agile approaches’ into ‘Agile’ as if there are best practices to follow in every situation?)

Ison explains that “social technologies are distinct from artefacts such as a hammer or a computer” as they are “characterised by a set of relationships in which the technology plays a mediating role” (Ison, ibid. p.8-9). He gives the example of a document template or application form, reasonably prosaic technologies which nevertheless standardise behaviour.

I’ve seen this in my own practice. For example, if we’re doing some user research, I’d much rather come up with the questions for a survey and then send it to the client for feedback rather than vice-versa. There’s a default position to be established, and such social technologies have baked-in norms, expectations, and worldviews. These can be difficult to ‘see’ unless they’re pointed out; my wife becoming a user researcher really opened my eyes to this!

2. What are the consequences of living in language?

My family and I watch a lot of football matches on TV. When we do this, we experience the match with the addition of commentary, and watch varying amounts of the build-up along with the half-time and post-game analysis from pundits. I’ve often pointed out to others in the room how laughably ‘leading’ the questions are that are asked of players and managers. For example: “how excited are you to have the opportunity to play in front of a sell-out crowd at Old Trafford?” or “how important is it to have a fit-again Mohamed Salah in the starting eleven for this game?”

Ison cites Neil Postman as saying that a sentence acts like a machine that enables or constrains our thinking in particular ways. In the examples I’ve given above, the aim is to make the interview easy, for it to flow, and to enable the creation of soundbites that can then be played back later. But we can equally imagine a leading question being asked of a politician as a kind of trap: if they accept the way that it’s framed, then however they answer could be problematic. For example, imagine a TV journalist asking a member of the current Tory government: “do you agree that Brexit has become a problem for this country’s economy?” Unless they reframe the question, the chances are that they would end up producing a potentially-embarrassing soundbite.

A consequence of living in language is that the social and political dynamics of explanations becomes very important – as a species we appear to live with a craving for explanations. An explanation does not exist in and of itself – it is part of a social dynamic between an explainer, an explanation (the form of an explanation) and a listener or reader… [A]ccepting a new of different explanation changes who we are; the accepting and rejecting of explanations is a key dynamic of being human.

Ison, ibid. p.9

3. Why have we failed to institutionalise systems thinking in our society in general and our organisational practices in particular?

In the introduction to the previous question, Ison mentions in a footnote that our contemporary focus is “on efficiency rather than effectiveness” which, I believe, is a short and pithy answer to this question about the lack of insitutionalisation of systems thinking.

Ison doesn’t go into great detail in this part of the chapter other than discussing the difference between an orchestra (with sheet music, a conductor, etc.) and a jazz ensemble. I think this is, again, part of the reason why it’s difficult to institutionalise systems thinking. Anything that you can’t just apply to a situation, but which requires work around contextualisation, is harder to do. Things that are harder to do are less likely to be done at scale.

It’s much easier to be in the position where you are a professional (X) in a field that has been well-defined (Y) and apply something which has been shown to work in that field (Z). In this situation, you are simply X applying Z to Y. In PFMS terms, though, you are a practitioner (P) who is using a particular framework (F) or way of viewing the world, to apply particular methods (M) to a situation (S). If we then step outside this and problematise it, we realise how contingent all of our knowledge and experience actually is. It can lead to doubt. Doubt can lead to a lack of confidence and certainty. And these, while not necessarily leading to the dark side, can certainly cripple an individual or organisation’s effectiveness.


We live in a time when we have a need to do a lot of things for the first time in history. Collaborate on fighting the climate emergency, for example. However, we also live at a time that is characterised by a deep distrust of experts and elites, as stoked by the experts and elites themselves. I don’t want to get into politics here, but needless to say that the right-wing capture of traditionally left-wing working-class votes is immensely problematic for trying to engender solidarity.

Without this kind of solidarity, we exist as atomised units, easier to control and sell products and services to. It also makes it easier for people with power to point to marginalised groups as the source of the problems being felt by a particular majority. This is known as sado-populism, where a leader (e.g. Donald Trump, Boris Johnson) doesn’t actually make anything better, but rather sows division.

From what I’ve read of Systems Practice, I do think Ison could talk a little more about politics and power. But then, of course, it would be a vastly different book, be less appealing to those who don’t share his political position, and be at least twice as long…


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Power and paths

One of the big influences for me when I started personal blogging, as opposed to blogging about education, was Zen Habits. It doesn’t look like it, but it’s one of the most viewed blogs on the web, with more than two million readers.

It’s written by Leo Babauta, who was recently interviewed on The Tim Ferriss Show. The podcast episode a great listen for a number of reasons, but I want to focus in on one thing that’s touched on briefly.

Babauta explains that he has six children, with four from his and his partner’s previous marriages, and the two they’ve had together. Some have gone to school, and some have been unschooled:

Unschooling is an informal learning that advocates learner-chosen activities as a primary means for learning. Unschoolers learn through their natural life experiences including play, household responsibilities, personal interests and curiosity, internships and work experience, travel, books, elective classes, family, mentors, and social interaction. Often considered a lesson- and curriculum-free implementation of homeschooling, unschooling encourages exploration of activities initiated by the children themselves, believing that the more personal learning is, the more meaningful, well-understood and therefore useful it is to the child. While courses may occasionally be taken, unschooling questions the usefulness of standard curricula, conventional grading methods in standardized tests, forced contact with children in their own age group, the compulsion to do homework, regardless of whether it helps you in your individual situation, the effectiveness of listening to and obeying the orders of one authority figure for several hours each day, and other features of traditional schooling in the education of each unique child.

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The point he makes is a simple one: if children are always brought up to be told what to do next, to be given a path, then how will they find a path of their own as adults?

He doesn’t make the connection explicitly, but my next thought was that this is perhaps why the default option for most people after school / college / university is to get a job in a hierarchical organisation with a boss telling you what to do.

The radical thing to do, and the thing which is much more empowering, is to reject persistent hierarchy and coercive power relations altogether. Instead, approaches such as consent-based decision making are the way forward. No-one needs someone telling them what to do all of the time — including children.


This post is Day 83 of my #100DaysToOffload challenge. Want to get involved? Find out more at 100daystooffload.com.

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