Notes from interview about productivity for teachers
Interview with Tim Bradburn (Connected Teaching)
1 March 2010
- Brief background – what are you doing now and what is your past experience in education?
- Currently employed as Director of E-Learning at The Northumberland Church of England Academy (10-site all-age Academy 3-19 set up at start of this academic year)
- Sixth year of teaching
- Previously E-Learning Staff Tutor as well as Teacher of History and ICT at Ridgewood School (High Achieving Specialist School in Doncaster)
- Started career as Teacher of History in Worksop
- Currently writing my Ed.D. thesis on the concept of ‘digital literacy’
- Have a wife (Primary Teacher) and 3 year-old son (hard work – both grandfathers were PE teachers!)
- Teaching staff always mention lack of time – 12 hour days as standard. Many of them are desperate to know how to work smarter, reduce workload and improve work-life balance. This seems particularly critical in primary. Why do you think this is?
- 3 main reasons:
- Immediate results – spending a little more time planning can have real results the next day
- Hypocrisy of Ofsted – bar being continually raised because of what teachers can achieve over a short inspection (expected all year round)
- No CPD on productivity/organization – expected to know how to use email effectively, manage time, prioritise, etc.
- 3 main reasons:
- Could you outline your views on productivity being a virtuous circle?
- Think about the opposite – how do we get into a vicious circle? When what we do negatively affects us so that we cannot perform well, and that then has an impact on the next thing, and so on.
- For example, some form of ‘coping strategy’ (such as alcohol) or avoidance strategy (such as avoiding marking) leads to a problem building up
- The opposite of that is a ‘virtuous circle’ – when what you do makes things easier or more manageable
- For example, coping with stress with exercise rather than cigarettes and alcohol can help with creating a virtuous circle because it increases your energy levels.
- You can check whether you’re involved in creating a virtuous circle for yourself by asking whether your actions are helping you increase your capacity.
- You talk about productivity being a learned behaviour, composed of serenity, reliability, focus. Could you explain that?
- No-one is ‘born productive’ (all learned). Met a lot of people who’ve had to sink or swim because of a crisis.
- Serenity = state free from stress and anxiety. People can perform under pressure (e.g. Olympic athletes) but can’t perform under stress and anxiety.
- Stress and anxiety one of major causes of long-term illness.
- Can learn to be serene – not by disengaging and not caring (quite the opposite)
- 3 ways to become serene:
- Have a system for everything (email, marking, where you put your keys)
- Deal with stress positively (exercise, write, talk)
- Talk positively about yourself (don’t say ‘I’m stressed’, ‘I can’t do this’, etc. – reification)
- No-one is ‘born productive’ (all learned). Met a lot of people who’ve had to sink or swim because of a crisis.
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- Reliability = being dependable. Seth Godin: this is a feature ‘Linchpins’ (the go-to people). Great for your career.
- Quickest & easiest way to become reliable & dependable = to show up. In fact, Woody Allen is famously quoted as saying “80% of success is just showing up”.
- To do this consistently you need a routine. Great believer: innovation = built upon standardization.
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- Focus = knowing what to concentrate your energy on.
- Teachers faced with raft of initiatives all the time – need to know which ones to spend time on (can’t do it all!)
- Write down your educational philosophy. Sounds grand, but really just the reason you came into profession.
- Back in Sunday school – 3 seives: true, helpful, kind?
- For teachers – 3 seives: does it fit in with my educational philosophy? does it help the kids in my classes? does it help my career?
- If yes, spend time on it. If no, give it the attention it deserves.
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- What is the difference between generic productivity systems that lack context versus a personal system with feedback loops?
- Aristotle, the ancient Greek philosopher: we become brave by pretending and practising being brave.
- Likewise, learn to be productive by asking yourself what a productive person would do.
- Problem with applying other people’s systems is that everyone has a different context.
- Things like GTD assume that you work in an office and are just doing ‘stuff’. Teachers are doing more important things than that.
- Feedback loops important as context can change – e.g. different class, new Ofsted system, move house, start a family.
- Your system needs to be emergent and adaptable.
- Never say that you do something because it’s always been done (or you’ve always done it) that way.
- Question everything.
- What is the value of “Calling yourself into the office” and sharing commitments?
- This is a great idea from Dan Pink’s book called ‘Drive’
- Saw him at The Sage in Gateshead and he was inspiring
- Idea is that performance reviews don’t happen very often – yearly or 6-monthly usually
- Need more feedback (imagine if Serena Williams only given feedback that often?!)
- Do it yourself
- Set targets/commitments at start of a month or half-term
- ‘Call yourself into the office’ at end of month/half-term
- Review.
- Set more targets/commitments.
- Can you elaborate on the theory that unproductiveness can be down to:
- A belief that the longer you spend on something the better it will be.
- I’m a perfectionist
- Sounds like a good thing, but it’s not.
- Many teachers share similar qualities.
- An asymptote is a line (usually a curve) that approaches, but never actually reaches another line
- Imagine line = ‘perfection’ – never going to reach it (more effort you put in, the less you’re getting out)
- Teachers tend to put effort into wrong things – the worksheet, the PowerPoint (instead of transitions and metaphors, for example)
- An unbalanced lifestyle (for example, not exercising often).
- We live in a binge culture – especially in the UK
- I think it’s the Viking influence – fight then drink!
- Unsustainable – Vikiings didn’t do that all the time…
- Achieving ‘serenity, reliability and focus’ = sustainable productivity
- An unbalanced lifestyle makes sustaining a virtuous circle very difficult
- Not boring because more fulfilling overall – more in control
- Some form of addiction.
- Addicts aren’t in full control of their lives.
- Easy to pick on drug-taking, alcohol, food and smoking, but some are more subtle
- Perfectionism is a form of addiction – tweaking worksheets and PowerPoints.
- Can also be addicted to checking email, Twitter and Facebook (BlackBerry/CrackBerry)
- Ways of thinking can be addictive as well:
- Negative thinking (e.g. body, health, career)
- Avoidance (e.g. squeezing planning into tiny window)
- Whinging (e.g. change, how someone’s treated you)
- Addiction – in whatever form – means you lose focus.
- A belief that the longer you spend on something the better it will be.
- A number of primary teachers have told us that primary has a greater workload than secondary – with substantially more paperwork. Would you agree? Is primary more challenging? What advice would you give to primary teachers?
- My wife’s a Primary teacher.
- Majority of Primary teachers are female (sure that’s a factor in some way – more conscientious?)
- Advantage Secondary teachers have over Primary = teaching essentially same lesson more than once in a week.
- Disadvantage for Secondary teachers = relationship with students.
- If Primary teachers = productive themselves, can get their class into a productive, virtuous circle.
- I sometimes wish I taught Primary.
- R.e. paperwork, Secondary teachers work in depts. so can distribute and share paperwork.
- Also, focus on that which is important – does this fit with my educational philosophy? will it benefit children? will it benefit my career?
- Remember perfectionist argument above – be your own person. Focus, be reliable, be serene.
- Talk to yourself. Big yourself up. Be your own biggest fan.
- Not arrogance – productivity.