Comments on: Safeguarding: the next step in the transition to Web 3.0? http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/ Education, Technology, Productivity. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:24:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Doug Belshaw http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-3183 Doug Belshaw Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:14:37 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-3183 It's not the Creative Commons licensing, per se, it's the fact that<br>unless we register every and any domain name, others can pretend to be<br>us... :-o It's not the Creative Commons licensing, per se, it's the fact that
unless we register every and any domain name, others can pretend to be
us… :-o

]]> By: Theo Kuechel http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-3182 Theo Kuechel Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:50:44 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-3182 My suggestion, for what its worth, would be to licence ETR with whatever flavour of Creative Commons you feel is best. Think this is essential, because the content is broadcast as a podcast. It would benefit from attributions by anyone who quoted /sampled / posted etc and I assume would also feature in CC searches. My suggestion, for what its worth, would be to licence ETR with whatever flavour of Creative Commons you feel is best. Think this is essential, because the content is broadcast as a podcast. It would benefit from attributions by anyone who quoted /sampled / posted etc and I assume would also feature in CC searches.

]]> By: Doug Belshaw http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-3181 Doug Belshaw Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:23:26 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-3181 A fair point, Theo. Just thinking in terms of EdTechRoundup, though - we<br>have no such protection at present! :-o A fair point, Theo. Just thinking in terms of EdTechRoundup, though – we
have no such protection at present! :-o

]]> By: Theo Kuechel http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-3180 Theo Kuechel Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:03:39 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-3180 Doug, I agree you are right to raise the issue of 'safeguarding' although, you may be worrying unnecessarily. Ian and Neil indicated that 'Teachmeet' is already licensed under Creative Commons. Should anyone hijack the name then that is legally enforceable protection, (providing you have the money for lawyers of course), but that would would be the case with a copyrighted /trademarked brand. A more likely scenario is <br><br>1. A 'company' adds the TM logo to its marketing <br>2. The Teachmeet community finds out and makes its views patently clear<br>3. The edublogosphere and twitterverse broadcast<br>4. The company wishes it had not done so is reputation and credibility in the education worlds severely damaged (think Talmos!)<br><br>I was at the 2nd Teachmeet in Glasgow a few years back, packed in a seminar room in a Hotel, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/edublogger/249026333/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/edublogger/249026333/</a> quite different from last Fridays experience, it is quite incredible to see how things have changed, although the sprit is still there. The great thing about Teachmeet it is capable of many incarnations, depending on venue and who and how mant attend. I am certain the forthcoming Teachmeets at Notingham and on Islay will all be quite different. <br><br>I think other, more abstract issues of ownership and group dynamics may emerge in time; but what we must try to avoid is a committee approach to unconferences at all costs, and letting each event evolve naturally with its participants, sponsors and 'doers' who set it up and make it happen. Doug, I agree you are right to raise the issue of 'safeguarding' although, you may be worrying unnecessarily. Ian and Neil indicated that 'Teachmeet' is already licensed under Creative Commons. Should anyone hijack the name then that is legally enforceable protection, (providing you have the money for lawyers of course), but that would would be the case with a copyrighted /trademarked brand. A more likely scenario is

1. A 'company' adds the TM logo to its marketing
2. The Teachmeet community finds out and makes its views patently clear
3. The edublogosphere and twitterverse broadcast
4. The company wishes it had not done so is reputation and credibility in the education worlds severely damaged (think Talmos!)

I was at the 2nd Teachmeet in Glasgow a few years back, packed in a seminar room in a Hotel, http://www.flickr.com/photos/edublogger/249026333/ quite different from last Fridays experience, it is quite incredible to see how things have changed, although the sprit is still there. The great thing about Teachmeet it is capable of many incarnations, depending on venue and who and how mant attend. I am certain the forthcoming Teachmeets at Notingham and on Islay will all be quite different.

I think other, more abstract issues of ownership and group dynamics may emerge in time; but what we must try to avoid is a committee approach to unconferences at all costs, and letting each event evolve naturally with its participants, sponsors and 'doers' who set it up and make it happen.

]]> By: Doug Belshaw http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-3179 Doug Belshaw Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:42:22 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-3179 Good to know - thanks! :-) Good to know – thanks! :-)

]]> By: Doug Belshaw http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Doug Belshaw Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:14:37 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-2139 It's not the Creative Commons licensing, per se, it's the fact that<br>unless we register every and any domain name, others can pretend to be<br>us... :-o It's not the Creative Commons licensing, per se, it's the fact that
unless we register every and any domain name, others can pretend to be
us… :-o

]]> By: Theo Kuechel http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-2138 Theo Kuechel Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:50:44 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-2138 My suggestion, for what its worth, would be to licence ETR with whatever flavour of Creative Commons you feel is best. Think this is essential, because the content is broadcast as a podcast. It would benefit from attributions by anyone who quoted /sampled / posted etc and I assume would also feature in CC searches. My suggestion, for what its worth, would be to licence ETR with whatever flavour of Creative Commons you feel is best. Think this is essential, because the content is broadcast as a podcast. It would benefit from attributions by anyone who quoted /sampled / posted etc and I assume would also feature in CC searches.

]]> By: Doug Belshaw http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-2137 Doug Belshaw Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:23:26 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-2137 A fair point, Theo. Just thinking in terms of EdTechRoundup, though - we<br>have no such protection at present! :-o A fair point, Theo. Just thinking in terms of EdTechRoundup, though – we
have no such protection at present! :-o

]]> By: Theo Kuechel http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Theo Kuechel Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:03:39 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-2136 Doug, I agree you are right to raise the issue of 'safeguarding' although, you may be worrying unnecessarily. Ian and Neil indicated that 'Teachmeet' is already licensed under Creative Commons. Should anyone hijack the name then that is legally enforceable protection, (providing you have the money for lawyers of course), but that would would be the case with a copyrighted /trademarked brand. A more likely scenario is <br><br>1. A 'company' adds the TM logo to its marketing <br>2. The Teachmeet community finds out and makes its views patently clear<br>3. The edublogosphere and twitterverse broadcast<br>4. The company wishes it had not done so is reputation and credibility in the education worlds severely damaged (think Talmos!)<br><br>I was at the 2nd Teachmeet in Glasgow a few years back, packed in a seminar room in a Hotel, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/edublogger/249026333/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/edublogger/249026333/</a> quite different from last Fridays experience, it is quite incredible to see how things have changed, although the sprit is still there. The great thing about Teachmeet it is capable of many incarnations, depending on venue and who and how mant attend. I am certain the forthcoming Teachmeets at Notingham and on Islay will all be quite different. <br><br>I think other, more abstract issues of ownership and group dynamics may emerge in time; but what we must try to avoid is a committee approach to unconferences at all costs, and letting each event evolve naturally with its participants, sponsors and 'doers' who set it up and make it happen. Doug, I agree you are right to raise the issue of 'safeguarding' although, you may be worrying unnecessarily. Ian and Neil indicated that 'Teachmeet' is already licensed under Creative Commons. Should anyone hijack the name then that is legally enforceable protection, (providing you have the money for lawyers of course), but that would would be the case with a copyrighted /trademarked brand. A more likely scenario is

1. A 'company' adds the TM logo to its marketing
2. The Teachmeet community finds out and makes its views patently clear
3. The edublogosphere and twitterverse broadcast
4. The company wishes it had not done so is reputation and credibility in the education worlds severely damaged (think Talmos!)

I was at the 2nd Teachmeet in Glasgow a few years back, packed in a seminar room in a Hotel, http://www.flickr.com/photos/edublogger/249026333/ quite different from last Fridays experience, it is quite incredible to see how things have changed, although the sprit is still there. The great thing about Teachmeet it is capable of many incarnations, depending on venue and who and how mant attend. I am certain the forthcoming Teachmeets at Notingham and on Islay will all be quite different.

I think other, more abstract issues of ownership and group dynamics may emerge in time; but what we must try to avoid is a committee approach to unconferences at all costs, and letting each event evolve naturally with its participants, sponsors and 'doers' who set it up and make it happen.

]]> By: Doug Belshaw http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2009/01/18/safeguarding-the-next-step-in-the-transition-to-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-2135 Doug Belshaw Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:42:22 +0000 http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-2135 Good to know - thanks! :-) Good to know – thanks! :-)

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