Comments on: Porn in every school? or Why filtering will soon be irrelevant. http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/ Education. Technology. Productivity. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel Stuckehttp://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/comment-page-1/#comment-855 Daniel Stucke Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:07:52 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=582#comment-855 My iPhone brought this home to me, and with the 3G one coming soon that will give more than fast enough speeds for pupils to browse the Net as they wish. Judging from the proliferation of iPod Touches in my school already it can only be a matter of 18-24 months before this starts to happen. My iPhone brought this home to me, and with the 3G one coming soon that will give more than fast enough speeds for pupils to browse the Net as they wish. Judging from the proliferation of iPod Touches in my school already it can only be a matter of 18-24 months before this starts to happen.

]]> By: John Larkinhttp://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/comment-page-1/#comment-861 John Larkin Sat, 31 May 2008 14:18:17 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=582#comment-861 Hi Doug and John, I wonder if ICANN will ever allow the establishment of a specific top level domain to publish that material so that if filtering is to be used it could be more effective. http://tinyurl.com/3392g3 ICANN keep putting the idea in the too hard basket. Cheers, John Hi Doug and John,
I wonder if ICANN will ever allow the establishment of a specific top level domain to publish that material so that if filtering is to be used it could be more effective.

http://tinyurl.com/3392g3

ICANN keep putting the idea in the too hard basket.
Cheers,
John

]]> By: Brooksiehttp://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/comment-page-1/#comment-860 Brooksie Sat, 31 May 2008 13:24:56 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=582#comment-860 I completely agree with you. Teaching students safety and digital citizenship should be the number one priority NOT the "just take it away from them and do nothing about it" approach. But with the laws in Texas and worries of suing I understand why it is still in place. <a href="http://www.ncsl.org/programs/lis/cip/filterlaws.htm" rel="nofollow">State filtering Laws</a> I completely agree with you. Teaching students safety and digital citizenship should be the number one priority NOT the “just take it away from them and do nothing about it” approach. But with the laws in Texas and worries of suing I understand why it is still in place. State filtering Laws

]]> By: John Suttonhttp://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/comment-page-1/#comment-859 John Sutton Sat, 31 May 2008 09:36:41 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=582#comment-859 Good analogy from John Larkin. Totally right, Doug. Trouble is there are so many vested interests at work in keeping filtering as the standard policy approach. Loads of gov funding to LAs and regional broadband consortia keeping network admins in jobs (who, incidentally, are never answerable to educationalists for justifying the decisions they make). We might know we're right, but short of schools abandoning LA internet connections en masse (yes, it can be done, and it's great (and usually cheaper) when you do it), change is gonna be a long time coming. Good analogy from John Larkin. Totally right, Doug. Trouble is there are so many vested interests at work in keeping filtering as the standard policy approach. Loads of gov funding to LAs and regional broadband consortia keeping network admins in jobs (who, incidentally, are never answerable to educationalists for justifying the decisions they make). We might know we’re right, but short of schools abandoning LA internet connections en masse (yes, it can be done, and it’s great (and usually cheaper) when you do it), change is gonna be a long time coming.

]]> By: John Larkinhttp://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/comment-page-1/#comment-858 John Larkin Sat, 31 May 2008 04:47:29 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=582#comment-858 Doug, You are quite right Doug. Education is the key. From teachers and parents. Commonsense. I often compare the Internet with a newsagency that sells, in addition to newspapers, all types of publications covering topics such as sport, entertainment, science, photography, hobbies, fashion, gossip and... pornography. Everyone knows it is there and everyone applies commonsense when they are in the shop. A similar approach could be taught to the children as they grow up. May not always be effective. But is is something I use. Cheers, John Doug,
You are quite right Doug. Education is the key. From teachers and parents. Commonsense. I often compare the Internet with a newsagency that sells, in addition to newspapers, all types of publications covering topics such as sport, entertainment, science, photography, hobbies, fashion, gossip and… pornography. Everyone knows it is there and everyone applies commonsense when they are in the shop. A similar approach could be taught to the children as they grow up. May not always be effective. But is is something I use.
Cheers,
John

]]> By: Doug Belshawhttp://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/comment-page-1/#comment-856 Doug Belshaw Fri, 30 May 2008 20:32:53 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=582#comment-856 What brought it home to me was when I was thinking about what to do when we move house shortly. I need to have an Internet conneciton to mark online during the period we're likely to move. If you've got a laptop, <a href="http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatch/Portal/appmanager/vodafone/wrp?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=template04&pageID=MB_0001&source=omd&wt.srch=1&lpsrc=Google&lpgroup=05+008+02+B+S+Mobile+Broadband_Branded+Mobile+Broadband" rel="nofollow">Vodaphone</a> do unlimited access for £15 or the <a href="http://threestore.three.co.uk/broadband/" rel="nofollow">3 network</a> do pay-as-you-go if you buy the device for £50. As we all know, the iPhone has unlimited data if you're on a contract with <a href=""http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone" rel="nofollow">O2</a>. It's not going to be long before other networks and devices go likewise... What brought it home to me was when I was thinking about what to do when we move house shortly. I need to have an Internet conneciton to mark online during the period we're likely to move.

If you've got a laptop, <a href="http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatch/Portal/appmanager/vodafone/wrp?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=template04&pageID=MB_0001&source=omd&wt.srch=1&lpsrc=Google&lpgroup=05+008+02+B+S+Mobile+Broadband_Branded+Mobile+Broadband&quot; rel="nofollow">Vodaphone do unlimited access for £15 or the <a href="http://threestore.three.co.uk/broadband/&quot; rel="nofollow">3 network do pay-as-you-go if you buy the device for £50. As we all know, the iPhone has unlimited data if you're on a contract with <a href=""http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone&quot; rel="nofollow">O2. It's not going to be long before other networks and devices go likewise…

]]> By: nstoneithttp://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2008/05/30/porn-in-every-school-or-why-filtering-will-soon-be-irrelevant/comment-page-1/#comment-857 nstoneit Fri, 30 May 2008 19:16:23 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=582#comment-857 That's something I hadn't thought of! Not to mention that students for years have been able to easily bluetooth and text unsuitable content to each other which I'm sure many schools have had experience with already. That’s something I hadn’t thought of! Not to mention that students for years have been able to easily bluetooth and text unsuitable content to each other which I’m sure many schools have had experience with already.

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