Comments on: Are you an ‘Edupunk’? I’m not.

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By: Doug Belshaw

Doug Belshaw — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:33:02 +0000

@Tad: I quote:

Punk might not be your scene, or have been your scene, but it’s always been around….

Punk is subcultural, almost tribal, and it ebbs and flows, but there’s been kids out there making the scene *somewhere* pretty consistently for over thirty years.

As an historian, 30 years isn’t even a wrinkle in human history as far as I’m concerned – so how can it have ‘always been around’?

@Scott: Apologies, but perhaps it’s impossible to follow everything in the edublogosphere – I don’t even think the mighty Downes manages that. The reason I mention never having heard of Jim Groom is to show my readers that I too have difficulty keeping up with everything. Jim’s obviously an established part of the Edublogosphere, yet he hasn’t even registered on my radar in the past 3 years. Hope that clears things up.

By: Scott Leslie

Scott Leslie — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:49:18 +0000

$0.02 of advice – if you want people (especially those of us who don’t know *you*) to engage with your substantive arguments, don’t start off a piece with an ad hominem like “but I’ve never heard of Jim Groom.” Not only does it undercut everything you wrote afterwards, it also ends up revealing that you’re not following along as closely as you think.

By: Julian’s Learning Lab blog » Blog Archive » Edupunk

Julian’s Learning Lab blog » Blog Archive » Edupunk — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:22:11 +0000

[...] Let’s not get carried away though. Not everyone is impressed. – http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/30/are-you-an-edupunk-im-not/ [...]

By: Tad Suiter

Tad Suiter — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:56:49 +0000

A small historical quibble– you mention not being of a “certain age.”

Punk might not be your scene, or have been your scene, but it’s always been around.

In the US, you can connect almost any year with where the punk scene was biggest– the late seventies NYC, the early eighties LA, mid-eighties DC, late eighties Bay Area… and on and on. There’s been a punk scene for the last thirty years. I know you’re in the UK, but I’m virtually certain this is true there as well.

It’s bigger in certain places at certain times, but the network of zines and small mail-order record labels made certain that the scene– or at least dispatches from it– were available to kids in the most backwater towns… who were then free to go out and try to foster and encourage a scene where they were. (The essence of DIY.)

I should know– I’m a small-town kid from a rural town in the Midwest. I read Maximum Rock & Roll religiously as a teen. I went to shows. At 29, though, if Sid & Nancy had had a kid, he’d be a few months older than me. Simultaneously, Lindsea at Students 2.0 (the very spelling of her name makes it virtually certain she’s close to ten years younger than I) resents a bunch of educated people who’re pushing forty coopting the label punk– they’re too old to be punk. Punk is something her generation “owns.”

Punk is subcultural, almost tribal, and it ebbs and flows, but there’s been kids out there making the scene *somewhere* pretty consistently for over thirty years.

…The word may not draw you in, it may not be your scene, but claiming it’s a generational difference is an historical fallacy.

By: asiaman

asiaman — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:19:39 +0000

Thanks for the post. Now I am in knowing what Edupunk is. I was out too.

By: John

John — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:59:10 +0000

Hi Doug, i probably don't read as deeply as you but noticed Jim Groom through the rather wonderful Non-Programistan gig a while back. I love the ideas of EDUPUNK especially the ideas of teachers being DIY & creative, the mention of HyperCard delighted me, the sprit of HyperCard allowed teachers to pick up an idea and run. The new technologies (and the creative use of chalk) should give class teachers an edge over corporate offerings by allowing them to be agile and have fun.

By: Doug Belshaw

Doug Belshaw — Sat, 31 May 2008 14:30:31 +0000

@Stephen: Of I read OLWeekly – doesn’t everybody? OLDaily was getting too much for me, I must admit, but I do pick-and-choose the links that interest me in your weekly newsletter.

Given that you’ve only been picking up Jim’s posts relating to higher education and things like Blackboard, iTunesU and Sakai, it’s understandable I haven’t heard of him. Thanks for the feature – now that I know about it, I’ll be using it a bit more.

By: Stephen Downes

Stephen Downes — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:46:46 +0000

I have covered Jim Groom’s blog for years on OLDaily. Here is a listing of the work I’ve covered over the last year or two (think of it as a personal ‘recent best of’):

http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?author=Jim%20Groom

You can follow-up on the work of any author on my website like this; the full list of authors is here: http://www.downes.ca/research_authors.htm

Of course – if you don’t read my newsletter, you won’t have heard of Jim Groom, and you won’t be familiar with this feature…